Every once in a while an exchange between a pro-life and pro-abortion advocate catches my attention. Sometimes these are thought-provoking exchanges resulting from civil discourse by educated people that are seeking to exchange ideas. And sometimes…not so much.

The video below shows an exchange between Ben Shapiro, a conservative commentator, author, and lawyer, and a Salisbury University student. Shapiro was speaking at the Maryland University when he decided to open the floor for questions. A pro-abortion supporter decided to take the opportunity to challenge Shapiro’s views on life and the legality of abortion. That led to the following exchange which was captured on video.

After watching this exchange I have one conclusion: many pro-abortion advocates have nothing to offer but rhetoric and media talking points.

Watch the video for yourself (posted below) and see if you can find any logic, reason, or anything remotely valuable in the pro-abortion advocates arguments. Here is a brief section of the discussion between Shapiro and the student:

Shapiro: I don’t think that killing babies is the solution to you making bad sexual decisions.  End of story.   The unsuccessful decision that you made was the decision you made to have sex out of wedlock. and then get pregnant out of wedlock, that decision is not alleviated by killing  —

Student: So women should just suck it up and have a child?

Shapiro: If you get pregnant, yes.  Because you don’t get to kill things just because it’s in your uterus.

Student: It’s my body, how about you just stay out of it.

Shapiro: How about it’s a baby.  You don’t get to kill it just because it’s in there. I don’t care about your appendix, I don’t care about your thorax, I don’t even care about your uterus.  I care about what’s in it.

Student: I can take out my appendix if I don’t want it.  Why can’t I take out other parts of my body?

Shapiro: Because they’re not independent living human beings.

Student: They’re not independent living beings when they’re a bundle of cells.

Shapiro: Are you also against partial birth abortion? At what point does that bundle of cells become a human being in your view? …  That is a relevant question.  If your argument is that that’s a bundle of cells, then the question becomes when it’s not a bundle of cells.

Shapiro: So you can only live on life support, you’re not a person?  You stop being a person?  So if you get a car crash today and get put on life support and put in an iron lung, take out the iron lung and you’re gonna die, you’re not a person anymore?  Is that how this works?

Student: If my brain is no longer functioning…

Shapiro: No, your brain is functioning, but you can’t breathe on your own,

Student: Then I’m still technically viable.

Shapiro: No, you’re not, because the machine is keeping you alive.  Again the bottom line is that if you are defining whether something is a life or not based on your own convenience, that is the nature of evil.